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I have an Elementary prediction!

I predict that Moriarty is Irene Adler. Please oh please? I have been ever so good.

I certainly don't believe that Irene is dead. It's a waste of a character who has become central to the Holmes mythos, and they've just been hitting that angle a little too hard. If anyone could fake their death well enough to fool Sherlock Holmes, it's Irene Adler. I just hadn't worked out why until this past episode. Obviously, if she is going to be a brilliant deadly villain, she can't have Sherlock weighing her down. It would seem, however, that she also can't kill him - maybe she's too fond of him, maybe the timing of his move to New York caused him to cease being a threat, whatever whatever. But this would be a new, interesting twist that I don't think we've seen before, and so much more palatable than what certain other recent adaptations have done to the character.

And definitely fucking better than having fridged her so Sherlock can have some manpain. I think this show is better than that.

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Oooooooh. Actually, I rather think I would love that. I'm not sure I trust the writers, or the American audience on whole, to take such a daring step, but good god would that ever be fun to play with.

(I wholeheartedly agree on the point that fridging such a central character is below the caliber of this series to date.)

I trust this show to pull it off more than I trust certain other adaptations. I have zero grasp of what American audiences can handle these days, though, since practically everything I watch is either from the UK or airs on cable (I was completely shocked by how graphic Hannibal is allowed to be, heh). Whatever they do, they have something up their sleeves, and it's probably something surprising; who saw Miss Hudson being trans coming?

Oh god, Elementary has the BEST Miss Hudson! Shrieking with glee! SHRIEKING.

I agree that they definitely have something up their sleeves. I've been nothing but pleased since the Pilot, and it is by far my favorite modern Sherlock adaptation yet.

Yesssss. It took a while to thoroughly win me over, but it's my favorite now, too. I love the new direction with Watson. I love the care they take with representing social minorities (especially in a city that's kind of famously NOT ALL WHITE). And because I've been so absorbed in Sherlock fandom (despite the many problems I have with that show), I love the feeling of watching a Holmes adaptation that is actually progressing instead of stagnating. I'm so, so glad that my blithe predictions of mediocrity turned out to be so very wrong.

I'm so sorry I saw the Miss Hudson episode late and had been spoiled, because omg that must have been the best moment. She's fantastic. And I love that the show mentioned her gender identity once and then it never came up again. Acknowledge the elephant in the room, point out that it's not an elephant, move the fuck on. Excellent.

I'm so, so glad that my blithe predictions of mediocrity turned out to be so very wrong.

This. Exactly this. I followed the project for nearly a year before the Pilot aired with so much dubiousness about the quality and execution. And the first few episodes wowed me, despite the fact that they did have some kinks to work out. A lot of articles at the time, mostly in defense of Sherlock and how America has nothing better to do with its time than rip off great BBC programming, did defend the show but by likening it to Monk. A quirky crime procedural, without the substance of its British "counterpart" (I use that term very lightly). I can definitely see where someone would draw those conclusions with the first three or four episodes, which were just getting the footing right. But it's just gotten better ever since, tighter scripts, less convoluted crimes, more character development. I totally agree with you about a progressive Sherlock rather than a stagnate one, and I am so BEYOND pleased with Joan Watson it's hard to articulate. She isn't just a woman, or a minority, but a kickass rendering of the original character with a generous helping of modern geek culture and flare. She is three-dimensional and her own person, not just Sherlock's sidekick, not just the token lead female, not just a publicity stunt. She's just my absolute favorite thing on cable television right now.

YES YES YES to that whole paragraph about Miss Hudson. I think the showrunners handled it beautifully, and delivered a stunning character AND character relationships (Sherlock-Hudson, Hudson-Watson, Hudson-Sherlock-Watson), which never felt trite or tricky. Very real, very true, and very much on the same note as their care with representing social minorities. It fits the flavor of New York and the reality of the world, not just a need for filling their quota or providing some media buzz. Such an amazing cast, really. Just so vividly real.

Clearly I have a lot of feels about this show. >_>